Changes: Vaagur, Ancient of Impatience

Revision as of 03:27, 31 August 2016

"It dawns on you that if you could just do everything all at once, all of your problems can be solved. When you are here, everyone notices your rushed attitude."

Effects pre 1.0

Lvl	Cost(Total)	CD	Lvl	Cost(Total)	CD
1		-5(1)%	9	3(17)	-45%
2	1(1)	-10(2)%	10	4(21)	-50%
3	1(2)	-15(3)%	11	4(25)	-55%
4	2(4)	-20%	12	4(29)	-60%
5	2(6)	-25%	13	5(34)	-65%
6	2(8)	-30%	14	5(39)	-70%
7	3(11)	-35%	15	5(44)	-75%
8	3(14)	-40%	Souls for max: 1000

Effect

Reduce Skill cooldown for every level in Vaagur

The cost of leveling up Vaagur is: your current Ancient Summoning cost (Which seems to follow no real equation but grows exponentially, see Ancients for prices.) at level 1, and then costs 2ⁿ hero souls per level. Mobile version only gets 1% cooldown reduction per level. Vaagur is uncapped. Its effect goes toward -75%. It progresses on a gradual, logarithmic decay curve with the equation:

cooldown_change_percent = -75(1-e^-.026n)

The -75% cooldown is handy when starting to reset multiple times as being able to use Powersurge every 2.5 minutes, The Dark Ritual every 2 hours (1 with Reload), and a full ability use ([1+]2+3+4+5+8+7) every 15 minutes speeds up floor progression.

It is possible to reduce buffing skill cooldowns to under the duration of the buff at sufficiently high levels, enabling continuous use. Ignoring relic bonuses, if all individual-skill ancients and Vaagur are leveled evenly until this point (due to their having equal power-curve cost equations) then Clickstorm/Powersurge become constantly usable when the relevant ancients are level 85 (total HS cost: 2.32e26), Lucky Strikes/Metal Detector reach this at ancient level 213 (total HS cost: 7.90e64), and Golden Clicks/Super Clicks reach this at ancient level 436--though Vaagur doesn't need to be leveled past about level 280 (total HS cost: 7.10e131).

Leveling Vaagur

Effect value is approximately = -75(1-e^(-0.026n))% skill cooldown

Lvl	Cost	Effect	Cost	Lvl	Effect	Cost	Lvl	Effect
1		-1.92%	1024	10	-17.17%	1.2e30	100	-69.42%
2	4	-3.80%	1.0e6	20	-30.41%	1.6e60	200	-74.58%
3	8	-5.62%	1.0e9	30	-40.61%	2.0e90	300	-74.96%
4	16	-7.40%	1.0e12	40	-48.49%	2.5e120	400	-74.99%
5	32	-9.14%	1.1e15	50	-54.56%	3.2e150	500	-74.99%
6	64	-10.83%	1.1e18	60	-59.23%	4.1e180	600	-74.99%
7	128	-12.47%	1.1e21	70	-62.84%	5.2e210	700	-74.99%
8	256	-14.08%	1.2e24	80	-65.63%	6.6e240	800	-74.99%
9	512	-15.64%	1.2e27	90	-67.77%	8.4e270	900	-74.99%

Trivia

Vaagur is named after a reddit user named Vaagur, who often made posts asking about the release date of Version 0.12.

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 ==Effects pre 1.0==
--5% [[Skills|Skill]] cooldown for every level in Vaagur. This Ancient is very cheap to max out (at only 45 souls to max if it is your first ancient, 44+(ancient cost) otherwise).
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-The -75% cooldown is handy when starting to reset multiple times as being able to use Powersurge every 2.5 minutes, The Dark Ritual every 2 hours (1 with Reload), and a full ability use ([1+]2+3+4+5+8+7) every 15 minutes speeds up floor progression.
-The cost of leveling up Vaagur is: your current Ancient Summoning cost (Which seems to follow no real equation but grows exponentially, see [[Ancients]] for prices.) at level 1, and then costs <code>n/3</code> rounded up to the next whole number (ie. 1.333 is rounded to 2). Mobile version only gets 1% cooldown reduction per level.
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-==Effect post 1.0==
+==Effect==
+Reduce [[Skills|Skill]] cooldown for every level in Vaagur
-Vaagur has been uncapped. Although its effect still goes toward -75%, its cost went up to 2<sup>'''''n'''''</sup>.  It now progresses on a gradual decay curve with the equation:
+The cost of leveling up Vaagur is: your current Ancient Summoning cost (Which seems to follow no real equation but grows exponentially, see [[Ancients]] for prices.) at level 1, and then costs 2<sup>'''''n'''''</sup> hero souls per level. Mobile version only gets 1% cooldown reduction per level. Vaagur is uncapped. Its effect goes toward -75%. It progresses on a gradual, logarithmic decay curve with the equation:
 '''''cooldown_change_percent''''' = -75(1-''e''<sup>-.026'''''n'''''</sup>)
+The -75% cooldown is handy when starting to reset multiple times as being able to use Powersurge every 2.5 minutes, The Dark Ritual every 2 hours (1 with Reload), and a full ability use ([1+]2+3+4+5+8+7) every 15 minutes speeds up floor progression.
-Due to the changes in the other skill ancients, it is now possible to reduce buffing skill cooldowns to under the duration of the buff at sufficiently high levels, enabling continuous use.  Ignoring relic bonuses, if all individual-skill ancients and Vaagur are leveled evenly until this point (due to their having equal power-curve cost equations) then Clickstorm/Powersurge become constantly usable when the relevant ancients are level 85 (total HS cost: 2.32e26), Lucky Strikes/Metal Detector reach this at ancient level 213 (total HS cost: 7.90e64), and Golden Clicks/Super Clicks reach this at ancient level 436--though Vaagur doesn't need to be leveled past about level 280 (total HS cost: 7.10e131).
-==Leveling Vaagur post 1.0==
+It is possible to reduce buffing skill cooldowns to under the duration of the buff at sufficiently high levels, enabling continuous use. Ignoring relic bonuses, if all individual-skill ancients and Vaagur are leveled evenly until this point (due to their having equal power-curve cost equations) then Clickstorm/Powersurge become constantly usable when the relevant ancients are level 85 (total HS cost: 2.32e26), Lucky Strikes/Metal Detector reach this at ancient level 213 (total HS cost: 7.90e64), and Golden Clicks/Super Clicks reach this at ancient level 436--though Vaagur doesn't need to be leveled past about level 280 (total HS cost: 7.10e131).
-Effect value is approximately = -75(1-e^(-0.026n))
+==Leveling Vaagur==
+Effect value is approximately = -75(1-e^(-0.026n))% skill cooldown
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